NHER 3049 (Monument record) - Site of buildings and boundaries of possible medieval to post medieval date, and earthworks of probably modern ponds

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Summary

Several glazed 13th century tiles, bricks and mortared flints may have been recovered from this location prior to 1948. Traces of a moat and fishponds were also noted near the finds, possibly indicating the former presence of a moated manor. However, it is likely that this site may have been confused with another at NHER 12303 or at NHER 16744. Soilmarks at this location appear to relate to buildings of possible medieval to post medieval date that have been demolished.

Protected Status/Designation

  • None recorded

Location

Map sheet TG01NE
Civil Parish LYNG, BRECKLAND, NORFOLK

Map

Before 1948. Casual Find. Field Observation.
A number of glazed 13th century tiles were unearthed in a meadow near Lyng Old Mill House along with old bricks and a lot of mortared flints. Two of the tiles had yellow green on red decoration and others had geometrical designs. Traces of a moat and three fish ponds were observed outside. John de Norwich had permission to crenellate a house here in about 1220.
Information from [1].
(NCM card R. R. Clarke.)

In fact the date of the licence is 1343 (S1), and the moat at site NHER 16744 would appear a better contender for the site (see that card). Note however that this site NHER 3049 is marked by Ordnance Survey (S4) as 'fishponds' but is nowhere near the Old Mill House, which is by site NHER 16744. It is possible that these finds in fact refer to site NHER 16744, and it was marked here by mistake because of the Ordnance Survey name.
E. Rose (NAU), 13 August 1984.

Nephew of [1] (1948 informant) states that these finds and detail in fact refer to site NHER 12303.
The fishponds marked at NHER 3049 by Ordnance Survey are fairly modern. It appears that the location was confused in 1948.
Information given to E. Rose, May 1988.

NGR corrected from original TG 081 176.
M. Horlock (NLA) 25 March 2003.

December 2007. Norfolk NMP.
A series of soilmarks are visible on the aerial photographs (S2) at this location and these all appear to relate to structures and boundaries marked on the 1810 Lyng Enclosure map (S3). These features had all been removed by the time of the Ordnance Survey first edition map (1879-1886) (S4). None of the features were mapped. The remains of medieval pottery and brick, tile and stone fragments recovered from the surface of the field (NMR – TG 01 NE 40) could indicate that this structure was medieval in date. The NMR record also confirms the existence of three fishponds to the north west of the site (situated 5m below the level of the site), although no definite date could be established. These ponds are not depicted on the Ordnance Survey first edition map (1879-1886) (S4) and are therefore likely to be relatively modern and were therefore not mapped. The NMR record states that they contain modern brick sluices, but also states that this could be an amendment to earlier ponds.
S. Massey (NMP), 05 December 2007.

  • --- Record Card: Clarke, R. R. and NCM Staff. 1933-1973. Norwich Castle Museum Record Card - Medieval. Lyng.
  • --- Record Card: NAU Staff. 1974-1988. Norfolk Archaeological Index Primary Record Card.
  • --- Record Card: Ordnance Survey Staff. 1933-1979?. Ordnance Survey Record Cards. TG 01 NE 40 [2].
  • <S1> Serial: Blomefield, F.. 1805-1810. An Essay Towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk.. Volume Unknown.
  • <S2> Map: Corby, R.. 1810. Lyng Enclosure Map. 1 inch: 6 chains.
  • <S2> Vertical Aerial Photograph: Meridian Airmaps Limited. 1971. MAL/71020 070 11-APR-1971 (NMR).
  • <S4> Map: Ordnance Survey. 1887-1891. Ordnance Survey first edition 6 inch (1887-1891) Sheet L.5.
  • ARCHITECTURAL FRAGMENT (Medieval - 1066 AD to 1539 AD)
  • BRICK (Medieval - 1066 AD to 1539 AD)
  • FLOOR TILE (Medieval - 1066 AD to 1539 AD)

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Record last edited

May 17 2016 10:09AM

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